Comments on: Bedroom Snoring Wrap-Up http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/2010/03/bedroom-snoring-wrap-up Creativity in New Home Construction from Milwaukee's Leading New Home Builder Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:09:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.1 hourly 1 By: Tom Hignite http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/2010/03/bedroom-snoring-wrap-up/comment-page-1#comment-106 Tom Hignite Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:07:27 +0000 http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/?p=114#comment-106 Hello Dave, Thank you for your comment. Hearing that you now are sleeping in two bedrooms and that this idea appeals to you, does give me good reassurance that I am perhaps on the right track. I have thought more about this since I wrote this blog entry many days ago. With further consideration, I still have not found a second solution which makes any more sense than this one, so I have seta few sketches to design my first home with this situation. I have placed the bathroom behind the bed headboard wall with each occupant having their own private toilet mini-room and one big shared 9 foot wide shower which enters off both toilet areas. This area could, as you suggested, be closets instead of a bath area. At night, my wife does not like me rendering our one master toilet off -limits until SHE gets to use it first. I run into this quite a bit so I thought that since having this twin sink idea in a bathroom is so hip, why not having two toilets? This way, both spouses have a toilet equally convenient to their side of the bed. The bigger 8 foot door is concealed inside the walling separating the two toilet areas. As for the foot board 4 foot door, I have built a wall divider into an exterior wall protrusion. On each side of this protrusion, there is a twin window. From the outside of the home, I have two other such walls which seemingly are there to hold up an extended 5 foot roof overhang. This way, these rear wall protrusions do not look out of place, but rather functional(which they are). I was glad to put this idea out there so readers would have a chance to comment. I did recieve comments both public and some verbal private ones too. Any feed-back on the lay-down shower concept? Blessings, Tom Note: I am so new to blogging that I do not know how to spell-check these responses. Please forgive my mis-spells. Hello Dave,
Thank you for your comment. Hearing that you now are sleeping in two bedrooms and that this idea appeals to you, does give me good reassurance that I am perhaps on the right track. I have thought more about this since I wrote this blog entry many days ago. With further consideration, I still have not found a second solution which makes any more sense than this one, so I have seta few sketches to design my first home with this situation. I have placed the bathroom behind the bed headboard wall with each occupant having their own private toilet mini-room and one big shared 9 foot wide shower which enters off both toilet areas. This area could, as you suggested, be closets instead of a bath area.
At night, my wife does not like me rendering our one master toilet off -limits until SHE gets to use it first. I run into this quite a bit so I thought that since having this twin sink idea in a bathroom is so hip, why not having two toilets? This way, both spouses have a toilet equally convenient to their side of the bed. The bigger 8 foot door is concealed inside the walling separating the two toilet areas.
As for the foot board 4 foot door, I have built a wall divider into an exterior wall protrusion. On each side of this protrusion, there is a twin window. From the outside of the home, I have two other such walls which seemingly are there to hold up an extended 5 foot roof overhang. This way, these rear wall protrusions do not look out of place, but rather functional(which they are).
I was glad to put this idea out there so readers would have a chance to comment. I did recieve comments both public and some verbal private ones too.
Any feed-back on the lay-down shower concept?
Blessings,
Tom
Note: I am so new to blogging that I do not know how to spell-check these responses. Please forgive my mis-spells.

]]> By: Dave http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/2010/03/bedroom-snoring-wrap-up/comment-page-1#comment-102 Dave Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:00:46 +0000 http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/?p=114#comment-102 Tom, I think you are on the right track with the two twin beds separated by a pocket door/device. In order to address the 'mechanism' needed, assume that you will provide all the hardware for the solution in your design, and the customer would then have the ability to set their choice of twin size box spring and mattress in your bedframe hardware. That way you can ensure a 'mechanism' that closes up when not in use and remains comfortable as the separator of the two twin mattresses. When not in use, a bedspread is put over the mattresses and the separator to retain a normal look. I think you can creatively design the room with placement of closets to 1) conceal the pocket doors (8ft headboard, 4ft footboard end) and 2) when closed, ensure a pathway for the enclosed side to navigate the room. The selling point, the cost of any hardware is cheaper than the extra room you just saved. I am speaking from experience, we use separate rooms. You are very creative, I appreciate your ideas and passion. Best Wishes. Tom,
I think you are on the right track with the two twin beds separated by a pocket door/device. In order to address the ‘mechanism’ needed, assume that you will provide all the hardware for the solution in your design, and the customer would then have the ability to set their choice of twin size box spring and mattress in your bedframe hardware. That way you can ensure a ‘mechanism’ that closes up when not in use and remains comfortable as the separator of the two twin mattresses. When not in use, a bedspread is put over the mattresses and the separator to retain a normal look. I think you can creatively design the room with placement of closets to 1) conceal the pocket doors (8ft headboard, 4ft footboard end) and 2) when closed, ensure a pathway for the enclosed side to navigate the room. The selling point, the cost of any hardware is cheaper than the extra room you just saved. I am speaking from experience, we use separate rooms. You are very creative, I appreciate your ideas and passion. Best Wishes.

]]> By: Tom http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/2010/03/bedroom-snoring-wrap-up/comment-page-1#comment-55 Tom Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:17:23 +0000 http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/?p=114#comment-55 Hi Noelle, I am glad you added your ideas to the mix for the snore-less bedroom. I do think your idea has merit. I have googled the sleeper car idea and will give it a brainstorm to see if that idea would/ could work OR lead to another off-shoot idea. Concealing the bed alcoves and making them soundproof would be the immediate challenge as would be the technical end of how to pivot the bed up inot the alcove. Once I find the mechanical needs, I think we could find a decorative or artistic way to overcome the hiding of the wall alcoves. One of my staffers suggested having a side -room to have the awoken spouse move to when the snoring gets too loud. The issue with this is that if it takes too much effort to move to another room, the idea is probably doomed to eventually fail. It has to be a simple, little-effort idea. It also needs to be cost effective to become mainstream. Also, the additional room , as I mentioned in the aritcle ,is going the wrong way in adding square footage when we are trying to reduce the home's volume. Your alcove idea could take up little space so it sounds like a good start. Thank you very much for the seed of an idea. Keep reading the blog. Blessings, Tom Hi Noelle,

I am glad you added your ideas to the mix for the snore-less bedroom. I do think your idea has merit. I have googled the sleeper car idea and will give it a brainstorm to see if that idea would/ could work OR lead to another off-shoot idea. Concealing the bed alcoves and making them soundproof would be the immediate challenge as would be the technical end of how to pivot the bed up inot the alcove. Once I find the mechanical needs, I think we could find a decorative or artistic way to overcome the hiding of the wall alcoves.
One of my staffers suggested having a side -room to have the awoken spouse move to when the snoring gets too loud. The issue with this is that if it takes too much effort to move to another room, the idea is probably doomed to eventually fail. It has to be a simple, little-effort idea. It also needs to be cost effective to become mainstream. Also, the additional room , as I mentioned in the aritcle ,is going the wrong way in adding square footage when we are trying to reduce the home’s volume. Your alcove idea could take up little space so it sounds like a good start.

Thank you very much for the seed of an idea. Keep reading the blog.
Blessings,
Tom

]]> By: Noelle Kelley http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/2010/03/bedroom-snoring-wrap-up/comment-page-1#comment-49 Noelle Kelley Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:50:51 +0000 http://www.miracle-homes.com/blog/?p=114#comment-49 Regarding your interesting bed ideas....how about using the railroad sleeper car as inspiration. Instead of a divider between the 2 beds, have 2 little "pocket rooms" on the headboard wall of the bed. Then, whoever needs quiet and sleep can push a button and the foot part of the bed swings around and tucks them into their own little pocket room! I know, sounds "out there", but I like that you are an out-of-the-box thinker! We met you at the 2009 Parade of Homes and are still considering having you build our next home. We LOVE the little big house! Keep up the good work! God Bless! Regarding your interesting bed ideas….how about using the railroad sleeper car as inspiration. Instead of a divider between the 2 beds, have 2 little “pocket rooms” on the headboard wall of the bed. Then, whoever needs quiet and sleep can push a button and the foot part of the bed swings around and tucks them into their own little pocket room! I know, sounds “out there”, but I like that you are an out-of-the-box thinker! We met you at the 2009 Parade of Homes and are still considering having you build our next home. We LOVE the little big house! Keep up the good work! God Bless!

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